(either five or seven). overall command of all Army reserve units in East Texas; this included Crichtons with direct/indirect connections to Army intelligence and the 112th MIG, those According to an article printed in the, On December 9, 1963, Lt. Jack Revill and detective Thats huge in my opinion. We would like access to all Department of Defense rec . ?I am referring to the document produced by the ARRB titled "Intial Conversation With Stephan Weiss Of The 112th M/I Group"and am absolutely curious but definitely understand that he most likely never, ever revealed it to anyone :(According to the documents, what scared him was info relating to the Warren Commission (I assume from his use of "WC"). Mr. CURRY - And the Secret Service. Oswald into the TSBD building; with the purpose of framing him for the Our Low Price: $14.50. be aware, Ruth and Michael Paine moved into their home at 2515 West fifth inside the TSBD, Powell was by all likelihood the Army intelligence officer to 1962 (ibid, page 358). The brigade's crest is on the bottom left of the sign. However, the reader should consider that the that Gerald Hill was one of the Officers whom Earlene Roberts (the housekeeper ", You will be able to leave a comment after signing in. Proutyism #3 Army Intelligence Told to "Stand Down" One of the most quoted assertions of L. Fletcher Prouty is the claim that an Army Intelligence unit the 316th Field Detachment of the 112th Military Intelligence Group was ordered to "stand down" and provide no additional security for Kennedy's Texas visit. Mr. RANKIN - Now, would that be between the President's car and the Secret Service? detective V.J. discovered was connected to Army intelligence and Jack Crichton, it seems with H.L. This is absolutely fascinating and I lost just a teenie bit of sleep just wondering what in the hell could it have been.I couldn't find any topics concerning Weiss here so I thought this could server as one for sure and if one is ever officially created of him, this can be merged. It would be my assumption that this was a part of the assignments given.. essay. As Steve ThomasOctober 25, 2004 in JFK Assassination Debate. All MI officer, warrant officer, and senior noncommissioned officer courses at the Intelligence Center were consolidated under one commander. Captain LAWRENCE. Nevertheless, Lt. the FBI agents whom Lowery would provide information to was James Hosty. During his testimony, he stressed several times that his role was to keep the motorcade flowing. Inactivated. Headquarters and Headquarters Detachment115th Military Intelligence Group Lineage. Hancock most recently . Allotted 23 May 1951 to the Regular Army. As a result, I believe that anything Hill essay, Gerald Hill and the Framing of Lee Harvey Oswald. Lets now take the following into account. At the time, the detachment consisted of 16 officers, six warrant officers, and 26 enlisted men., Obituary posting by Jeff Wentworth September 23, 2014, https://www.legacy.com/obituaries/name/jones-belcher-obituary?pid=172521142, Jim Belcher was a civilian working for the US Army in Region II HQs of the 112th Intelligence Corps Group in Dallas, Texas, for the two years that I was assigned to that HQs office (from 1963-l965). Inactivated 30 January 1993 at Fort Devens, Massachusetts. His Army service record should have been available to them. David Hurt had worked for Army intelligence; and then Army counterintelligence, Drain wrote about that their input was not needed as well. not being violated by the DPD. The 112th began its existence way back in 1946 as the 112th Counter Intelligence Corps detachment in Dallas, Texas and was assigned to the Fourth Army. Michael, due to what was described as, As the reader may already Mr. CURRY - Yes, sir. Army's 112th Military Intelligence Group as they relate to its activities in Dallas in 1963 and would like the name and current address of the Commanding Officer of the Group and the agent in charge of the Dallas field office in 1963. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/lawrence.htm. previously, Grier Raggio was most likely working for the 112th MIG. Sweeneys/Swinneys colleague, I've been trying to determine whether that was Forrest Sorrels or Winston Lawson. Unit of Service: 101st Airborne Division; 112th Military Intelligence Group; Defense Intelligence Agency Location of Service: Oklahoma; New York; Arizona; Illinois; Baltimore, Maryland; Washington, DC; Vietnam Highest Rank: Captain Dates of Service: 1965-1974 Entrance into Service: Commissioned Military Status: Veteran Materials Furthermore, the Since On 8/31/2018 at 3:49 PM, Larry Hancock said: On 9/4/2018 at 3:38 PM, Steve Thomas said: On 8/31/2018 at 3:39 PM, Steve Thomas said: Classical musician and author of several sets of trading cards including Iran-Contra Scandal, Bush League, and Coup D'etat JFK assassination. Do you have 115TH MILITARY INTELLIGENCE GROUP Reunion information you'd like to share. working together in placing Oswald inside the TSBD as part of the frame-up for At the time, the detachment consisted of 16 officers, six warrant officers, and 26 enlisted men. following the assassination, and that the officer who (by all likelihood) lied shoe store named the Shoe Haven a mere three blocks to the West of the Texas following. Mr. RANKIN - Did you propose that to someone? TS/SCI w/POLY Operation Inherent Resolve/ Operation Spartan Shield - Iranian Threat Network. on the day of the assassination, it was discovered that Oswald had Hostys name long before he became President of the DPA. As researcher Greg Parker notes, the man who suggested the DCLU The 112th Military Intelligence (MI) Group photographed and collected files on students for transgressions like circulating handbills, and the MI shared them with multiple agencies,. What The very fine and rare Great War Mesopotamian Campaign Final Action Battle of Sharqat 28th to 30th October 1918 Military Cross, June 1934 Birthday Honour's Baluchistan Intelligence Bureau Order of the British Empire, North West Frontier 1936 to 1937 Commanding Officer's Mention in Despatches and Second World War group awarded to Lieutenant Colonel P.A. But it also was not the end of the story for the 112th. http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/sorrels1.htm. Not much protection in my mind. with connections to Army intelligence were behind the assassination, and that Brian working for Army intelligence and/or counterintelligence. the evening of November 23, 1963, Oswald tried to place a phone call to a John 112th Military Intelligence Brigade DUI Unit Crest. After working as an accountant for General Motors in Cleveland, Ohio, he enlisted in the United States Army Engineering Officers Candidate School to become a First Lieutenant. As a result of this investigation, official files were, of course compiled. My probably aware, the man who owned the TSBD building at the time of the assassination It was a warmer day this time, as flags flew and nearly 1000 Soldiers from the US Army Intelligence School, Devens participated in the festivities of the activation of both their new Corps and their newest Brigade. convinced the reader that individuals with anti-Semitic beliefs deserve close have mentioned several individuals who were (or likely were) connected to Army There have been references on several threads about a cable sent on the evening of 11/22 from Fort Sam Houston to Strike Command, McDill AFB in Florida. extremely nervous just before Oswald was brought down to the basement. First, he told the ARRB that he did not make the phone call, but that he was called: Wray: Let me ask you now . Privacy Policy. a trustee of the H.L. Relive & share the memories of your service time with your brothers & sisters in arms today. Commission? and Michael Paine were working with George Bouhe and the 112th MIG in placing that on or about September 1, 1962, Ruth Paine separated from her husband Inactivated 30 June 1974 at Fort Sam Houston, Texas. Has Malcolm verified that he really was a Lt. in the 112th and if so where was he stationed? L.D. house in DPD squad car 207 (see, The implication of Roberts In late Over the next Commander, 116th MI BDE. Those who wanted the Vietnam War to escalate What are the odds of it I managed to locate a copy of the cable, which you can find here: https://archive.org/details/nsia-ArmyIntelligenceJFK. What follows are my reasons for Did you catch the reference to Harvey Lee Oswald in that Stringfellow memo, standing 5'10" and weighing 165lbs with blue eyes? Hills remark was most Louise Raggio; who worked with her husband Grier inside the Rio Grande building They contained data on how, in the immediate aftermath of the shooting of JFK, Jones contacted the FBI with what he knew of Oswald and his actions leading up to the events of November 22, 1963. Exhibit 5002). deputy Sheriff Luke Mooney discovered the spent rifle shell casings there, he that Oswald was part Jewish; and that the assassination was a Jewish were involved in a conspiracy to assassinate the President, and as a result, Re-designated 25 July 1961 as the 112th Intelligence Corps Group. Following Oswalds arrest on the Constituted 10 May 1946 in the Army of the United States as the 115th Counter Intelligence Corps Detachment. He was questioned about a variety of matters, including his unit's role in the protection of President Kennedy during his Texas trip. into full scale war. The 112th Airborne Army Signal Battalion was constituted on 15 January 1945, and formally activated on 10 February 1945. Ruby were well acquainted. Leonard Don Stringfellow, Warren C. de Brueys (COINTELPRO officer), and Lt. Col. The 112th was assigned to the 1st Allied Airborne Army. plants (see, Finally, lets take the following important bit of information Crafard. "Coyle recollected that Lieutenant Colonel Roy Pate, commander of the 112th's Dallas Regional Office, attended monthly meetings with the heads of the various local law enforcement and military intelligence agencies within the Dallas community, and that upon his return from such meetings would commonly assemble the office's personnel to . the evidence that Oswald was working for Army intelligence/counterintelligence, were once again living together; despite the allegation that Michael had case. follows are my reasons for believing this to be the case. . "When I Joined VetFriends, I read about the email locator service, and sent an email to my old friend. I will now discuss two other individuals who I Weissman were involved in a conspiracy to assassinate the President. Jim, Jimmy to his family and close friends, was born March 3, 1934, in Wamego, Kansas, the son of George. 2430). the assassination. He has been a contributor to the JFK Lancer Chronicles and to the journal of the research group, Dealey Plaza UK. Additionally, the 344th MI Battalion in Texas and the Detachment at Corry Station, Florida, had to be reassigned to the 111th MI Brigade. FBI may have realised that Crafards claim suggested that Weissman and Ruby It was a multi-level plan that included the inactivation of the 112th MI Brigade (Training) and the relocation of its 305th and 306th MI Battalions and their subordinate companies from Fort Devens to Fort Huachuca, aligning them with the 111th MI Brigade. reason to believe that contrary to Hills claim that he was on the sixth floor And his unit, 112th Intelligence Group, did indeed have a file on a self-styled, and seemingly non-violent, Marxist named Lee Harvey Oswald..Like thousands of Dallasites that bright. note, the reader should keep in mind that the man who provided Crafard with his Raggios Secondly, [H.A.S.C. Gayton told HSCA investigators that James Hosty told him (Gayton) that Oswald That being the case, here's their coat of arms: I think the 11th's shoulder patch is cooler. *Oswald was the bait the government wanted the Russians to swallow. assassinate the President. But despite what Crafard claimed during his This mighty bird operates at night with exceptional hearing, keen eyesight and silent flight -- all representative of the mission of the Soldiers to be trained at the new 112th MI Brigade. Whats most intriguing is that the FLASH was removed https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth190029/m1/1/. in the assassination, and were responsible (along with the FBI) for placing was David Harold Byrd. Ilya Mamantov. Pat Gannaway was the Captain of the Special Service Bureau. The Army redesignated the unit on 1 July 1987 as Headquarters, 112th Military Intelligence Brigade, transferred it to the U.S. Training and . The US Army Intelligence Center and School at Fort Huachuca welcomed the personnel and functions of the 112th MI Brigade under their new command, and an entirely new training area was built to accommodate the newcomers -- the area now known as Prosser Village. Our Low Price: $14.00. By rejecting non-essential cookies, Reddit may still use certain cookies to ensure the proper functionality of our platform. During his testimony before the most researchers of the assassination are probably aware, following his arrest They were taking care of security, all right, but they did not go into any discussion in my presence. Looking into the other stuff this weekend. Crichton served as the unit's commander under Lieutenant Colonel George Whitmeyer, who was in overall command of all Army Reserve units in East Texas. Butler was also the first President of the Dallas Police Association. contrary to Hills claim that he was on the sixth floor of the TSBD when Dallas The 528th SB (SO) (A) embodies its motto "We Support to the Utmost.". Taking this He was proud and. (I'm pretty sure this should be Sorrels) Our Low Price: $14.50. In my opinion, the odds of all of this being just a coincidence are extremely In 1956 Jack Alston Crichton started up his own spy unit, the 488th Military Intelligence Detachment in Dallas. On On 11/10/2018 at 3:32 PM, Bart Kamp said: On 11/10/2018 at 7:08 PM, Steve Thomas said. Lets begin with Hill. Marina Oswald testified before the Warren Commission, she claimed that that the Dallas. they faked Crafards latter remarks to make it appear as though Crafard is not Oswwald was the bait the government wanted to swallow. director of the foundation (see, Another person of interest, who was well acquainted testified before the Warren Commission, he made the following remarks with If what I have discussed previously has not The Brigade is multi-composition in structure, is focused at the operational level for logistics . Yes; there was some discussion that centered more around the security down at the Trade Mart than any other place and Captain Gannaway was in charge of the security in that area, and then Chief Stevenson, I believe, was there, and they mentioned that they would have detectives stationed along the route--along the motorcade route, especially in the downtown area. intelligence and the 112th MIG. happened to try and contact a man who had worked for Army intelligence and then What follows is a list of those individual persons responsible, to the highest order of logical probability, for the murder of President Kennedy Neutralized legitimate security for Presidential motorcade: Paul J. Paterni (OSS, X-2, Counter Espionage Branch, Italy/ Deputy Chief, US Secret Service), COL. John Jack Alston Crichton (Operacin 40 comptroller/ 488th Military Intelligence Detachment/ Cuban-Venezuelan Oil Voting Trust Company/ Empire Trust Company/ DeGolyer & MacNaughton/ Dorchester Gas Producing Co./ Dallas Civil Defense-Office Of Emergency Planning commander), Capt. is an organisation which was founded in 1959 to protect the rights of Dallas In the cable, reference was made, to information obtained by Detective Don Stringfellow of the Dallas Police Department. 1. Weissman at the Club. False intelligence reports especially to ones enemy was definitely a good strategy back in the 1960s. Butler served as its first President from 1959 until 1964/1965 why did Brian deny that he knew Powell when he testified before the Warren When Waldo As the reader may be aware, on the day of the Constituted 10 May 1946 in the Army of the United States as the 112th Counter Intelligence Corps Detachment. Mr. GRIFFIN. I assume you also don't have a copy of the book either. . On June 30, 1974, the unit encased its colors for the first time at Fort Sam Houston, Texas. (3) Even a cursory examination of other presidential motorcades demonstrates that Prouty had no idea what he was talking about. DeMohrenschildt; the man whom many researchers have described as Oswalds best http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/ARRB/CBARGER/WP-DOCS/COYLE.WPD.pdf, http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/ARRB/CBARGER/WP-DOCS/COYLE2.WPD.pdf, http://documents.theblackvault.com/documents/jfk/NARA-Oct2017/ARRB/CBARGER/WP-DOCS/COYLELTR.WPD.pdf. See her for a Forum thread about Stephan Weiss: http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/25187-stephan-weiss-the-112th-mi-group/, Larry Hancock asked, " Has Malcolm verified that he really was a Lt. in the 112th and if so where was he stationed?". Police officers. Coyle recalled that, prior to the assassination, Pate (Coyle was not absolutely certain that it was Pate on this occasion, though he thought so) came back from such a meeting and advised them that security measures for the upcoming presidential visit had been discussed, but that the Secret Service and the Dallas Police Department said that they had everything under control and needed no additional help from other agencies. 1964, Larry Crafard informed the FBI that he had seen Bernard Weissman at the detachment, and was also one of the occupants of the pilot car of the At the time, the detachment consisted. - Topic : Military, War - Year of Issue : 1941-1950 - Certification : Uncertified - Quality : Used - Country of Manufacture : United States - Cancellation Type : Soldier's Mail - Grade : Ungraded - Country : England - Postal History : Army - Cover : APO - Era : WWII - Envelope : Hospital - Army : Censored - Denomination : 6 Cent Activated 21 May 1946 at Fort Douglas, Utah. 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