CPX 2. I own two of them, and they have turned out to be the highest quality most reliable firearms I own. Sorry, with all due respect to Mr Henson, I wish you the best of luck, and while I see how this might help some buyers sort from the thousands of gun models, its only a start. I wouldnt go smaller than a Glock 27 in .40 the recoil is too snappy. You do not get a small light pistol without trade offs. Notify me of follow-up comments by email. Bodyguard were well rated. I have no Idea how this writer came up with this Bottom Feeder nonsense. He didnt even require them to be positive. All semi auto weapons will jam at one time or another, and dont feel the same in everyones hand.. I own two of them, shoot pockets guns each week and have been for years. The serrations on the LCP are also wider in order to get a better grip in slippery conditions when racking the slide. So, pocket guns being inherently hard to shoot and prone to limp wristing will experience failures. Yes it did. Its that bad. Nice little write up- and way to plug your site. All run like sewing machines. You hold the slide back to engage the cocking. And with 38 other semi-auto pocketguns to choose from, why risk it? All of this list (for the most part) are price point guns and no, you will not get HK quality for $200, but this list is about as fanboy as anything I have ever seen on here. Worst complaint is the trigger, but a lot of dry fires with snap caps and you condition yourself to the long reset. Shoots fine, never a problem, kills my hand. For their size they are accurate but these are not range guns (especially the CM40). Or has been suggested earlier you can just go snub nosed revolver. I do feel though that its a little too light for a 9mm caliber . Their customer service is great and my pistol has run 100% since I bought it with multiples of hundreds of rounds through it. I have a KAHR CM40 and a CW40 and for their intended purpose they are great. He may want to trade the SCCY with the safety in for one of the newer ones without a safety. Keep the .4 calibers to compact, mid, or full-size. I find that many pistols jam because of a defective magazine thats not feeding properly. I assume the reason the CM40 sucks is similar. The gun works. Sig without question is the "Caddilac". In fact, yanking the mag should tell him to learn the gun. My hands are simply too large for the tiny Ruger. But hey, thanks for calling regulars to this site a-holes. You mean like the crowd of voters that put Obama in office twice. Very small would suggest either real fanboys or real haters. Both types are not recommened by the maker for the guns. So special, they ride the short bus. Sorry, but NOT my Kahr. Ruger has proven that you dont need to have an arduous and gritty trigger pull on a .380 auto and its likely that more manufacturers will now follow their lead. The Hellcat II was cheap when purchased new, and you can find one used for around $100. Thats a lot! This is the J-Frame for the masses. It is almost a virtual impossibility to drop the mag without having to literally stop everything your doing and have to yank the thing down using 2 hands. what a waste of time. This guy most definitely does not have one clue about the Pico. [Edit: Jeremy S. had issues w/ the Pico as well], 5) Kahr Arms CM40(3.8 stars 0.7, 36 votes). A recoil spring system that not only sucks, but lends the thing to have constant and regular jams and FTF and FTEs. Do not yank the magazine friends. The trigger is long and weighty but smooth. The sights on the LCP II are built into the top of the slide like its predecessor. I experienced none of that with my p3at but it was entertaining to read. It had some issues ejecting, but a trip to the factory corrected the issues. Glad to see it was noted as rating highly, and not on the list. So I returned it to them, they replaced several worn parts and returned it. Too many women wind up dropping the gun which the thug grabs and then uses on the woman. How is the pot metal Cobra #2? Thats along what I was thinking. Well, Taurus only makes one gun that really meets the pocket pistol criteria set forth in the article. Learn to shoot pocket guns and find the truth yourself and stop listening to counter Clerks at big Box stores. He paid people to review his book on Amazon. I have literally spoken to no one that has said anything positive about the Pico. My advice. The stats of the survey may need to be expanded on as well but for the most part would not own any of the others either, just my opinion. Thats a problem for a pocket gun. When I told him I never have a problem with my P-11 or my wifes Ruger SR-9, he then said maybe its the ammo. Super long heavy pull, which is understandable on a DA only no safety gun. Even your most expensive 1911s, Colts, S&W and Glocks will jam or miss fire from time to time. You must not even be able to read. Web.380 Automatic Colt Pistol (ACP) was one of the many calibers created by legendary firearms designer John Browning, dating back to 1908. Solid with FMJ round nose once broken in, will NOT feed hollow points until after a trip back to the factory. By the way John, I have the Kahr, yes nice gun.Shoots well. Nonetheless, the fact that they are difficult to shoot can be a major problem for training and self-defense purposes. As a back-up weapon to a larger pistol, the LCP II would also be a great choice as it has a very similar manual of arms to larger pistols such as Glocks while also being small enough to easily conceal carry as we have just seen. As far as the magazine release, its perfect for my needs. The thing is about Cobras, hi points that people that call them junk have never actually researched the gun. This gun is selling better than ever years later. And I will do my best to talk others out of Kahr products. The guns with the lower number of people voting are probably irrelevant no matter what their scores are. http://virtualchick.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/01/unicorn.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty1.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-beauty2.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-right.jpg, http://www.waltherarms.com/wp-content/uploads/ppk-left.jpg. One of the most MILD mannered pistols you can shoot in 380.They are Ultra reliable with all kinds of ammo. I have shot the Pico with thousands of rounds and can honestly say I have Never had ONE single failure out of thousands of rounds. The Pico is one of the best firearms in its class out there period. Its pretty clear why. If there is what looks like an empty hole its uncocked. Im guessing a .40 S&W round is just too unpleasant to shoot in this uber lightweight polymer-framed pocket gun. It is not some junker throwaway, but a solid, well machined piece with a heavy but smooth DAO trigger which emulates a DA revolver, by design and makes the piece perhaps a bit more safely carried and handled for many that may feel uncomfortable with a light, short pull SA. In other words, its not pleasant to shot at all. Try posting a survey asking for votes on Glocks, for instance, and you will get a very polarized response . (dead serious) took it right back to the store. Types Of .380 Pistols Subcompact vs Micro-Compact Single-Stack vs Double-Stack Magazines What Should You Look for in a The DAO trigger is long but is consistent and smooth. First of all I do have the Kahr and like the gun very much. No warning shot, no shoot to wound. I doubt he even read the directions. You have to use the recommened ammo in the manual. .380 pocket pistols are traditionally difficult to fire for a number of reasons: in addition to the horrid trigger pulls like we just discussed, they also suffer from being extremely snappy due to their small size. I cant count on my DB380 to run consistently, so I had to give it a low rating. I had huge issues with a Kahr, so they will never get my money again. They were remarkably accurate and soft-shooting, too. I was thinking the same thing as I read this article. Prohibition: Why It Wouldnt Work Any Better With Guns Than It Did With Alcohol, Defendant Agrees Appeals Court Should Uphold Injunction Blocking New Yorks Law Banning Carrying Guns in Sensitive Places, Judge Robert L. Miller: Its an Insult to the Founders to Assume They Didnt Expect Gun Control in Future Generations. I told him Im shooting the same Remington ammo in all of them (I dont use the reloads or Russian stuff). To each his own . For those of you looking specifically for a concealed carry pistol, hold off on buying a Glock just yet. Thus it works as a safety (just like a S&W revolver). In 2017, SIG Sauer produced a unicorn of a pistol in the P365. This is like the buzzfeed of gun articles. After using a proper fitting mag, very few jams, maybe 2 or 3 per 100 rounds. i used to own a keltec p11. 400 rounds! Built like a tank. You can buy 1911s now. (2) You have no idea who the reviewers are and what their qualifications to rate a firearm areeven if they tell you. :p. People generally avoid spam masquerading as journalism. In light of that, the valuable service you claim hes doing may well be smoke and mirrors. All of these features together, the improved trigger, the enhanced serrations, the stippling on the grip, and the slightly wider grip size all combine to make the LCP II a better handgun to shoot than the original LCP. My SCCY CPX-2 has been absolutely accurate with never a malfunction of any kind. One thing that was not improved over the original LCP, however, is the sights. In a fight you wont notice it. The only thing about that bill is that allows those in a govt approved marksmenship program to buy them first. Nice gun, but many of Kahr owners go to the Pico and never look back. Wrong about sccy. Regardless of your take on user ratings, I think you can safely ignore the bottom six guns and not worry about missing out on much. WHAT ARE THE DISADVANTAGES OF THE .380 POCKET PISTOL? I dont know the story behind why but we can only guess. the fact you just dont like it? ALL RIGHTS RESERVED. In the case of the SCCY they are worth it. I think you would be hard pressed to find any thing this good for that price. Current (and Growing) List of Exhibitors at the Texas Firearms Festival. But still, Im sure there are worse ones. The one I had was utter shit. Presenting statistics like this isnt representative of the actual quality of the product, but the opinion of those who voted. Tiny, safety features, serious calibers, etc. My other gun is a Beretta PX4. SRP: $269. Worst Guns Ever Nambu: The Nambu is one of the worst pistols ever designed. Beretta did a fine job on the Pocket Pistol. Even a novice can see the better build quality of the Pico. Wonder if SCCY will give you a deal on a trade in for that one ? Buy Your Tickets Today! Every trigger Ive ever pulled is better than the LCP. My PT 22 is surprisingly reliable. Sold it and picked up an LCP off a friend for $150. Or the Springfield EMP (Though mine runs awesome, they are known for manufacturing problems). I called the factory and was accused of limp wristing. Id trust actual reviewers over internet voters. But I have no interest in any Keltec pistol-unlike several rifles. Super gun, works every time. I used to have one. Um the SCCY is a near exact copy of the nearby(Cocoa,Fl) Keltec P-11. Stainless Steel receiver, chassis, guide rod, built like a tank. Hi points work if you use FMJ and clean and oil the gun. Nonetheless, it still suffers from many of the issues that we just talked about in the previous section: the trigger pull is awful, they are difficult to shoot, it can be difficult to get a good grip on the pistol for some shooters, and the slide wont even lock back on the last round fired. At first glance, Japans first semi-automatic pistol design resembles the iconic Funny, I have the SCCY CPX-2 and I love it. good amount of rounds it is a damn good carry gun. I have a SCCY too. I bought one of the .380 Seecamps when they first came out. Not cheap, but beautifully crafted. That thing is a freaking beast of a gun in terms of durability (yes, I have seen torture tests of it). You can hire chinese brokers to buy likes on Fakebook, and twitter followers by the thousands. Did he shoot various ammo or run them for accuracy. Obvious, one writers bias, trying to get internet rookies to bash guns most have never shot nor even understand. Trash. TTAG writerJeremy S. apparently had a non-awful experience with a CA380. With a much lighter trigger, enhanced slide serrations, wider grip, impressive stippling job, and the ability to slide lock on the last round, the LCP II is a definitive improvement over other comparable .380 pocket guns. The design was intended to produce more accuracy while only sacrificing marginal power. Check out the 380 showdown in GunWorldin 2012all 3 Keltecs broke and wouldnt run right. It came back still not fixed. I have thousands of rounds through both and they keep on trucking One gun has 5000 rounds with just one failure with all kinds of ammo and that was a bad primer strike, which by the way the Pico has double strike capability which took care of that. Its a sharp designed pistol with a great price . The warranty cant be beat. Most people who love the P3-AT just carry it but dont use it. I got a Glock26, and have been happy ever since! And probably never fired one. Anything In the Ring of Fire Family. The trigger pull on the LCP II most closely resembles the trigger on larger striker fired polymer pistols such as the Glock. Not sure why the Sccy is on this list, I own a cpx2 and its great! OMG! That would be TTAG, and a handful of others. Each of these guns has a lightweight, compact design making them ideal for concealed carry. I have seen this kind of nonsense before but did not expect to see it here. Im curious as to how you derived your +/- error bars and why you are calling 25-50 votes statistically significant. Those are awfully small sample sizes compared to the number of guns of each make/model in production. the Truth about Guns is one of the most biased groups around. It has the stopping power necessary to approach a threat, while still maintaining the size required for comfortable everyday carry. Wecantdislike shooting it so much that well never practice with it. They fall apart with any kink of volume down range. Last but not least, and while this is entirely personal preference, many regard .380 autos as having poor ergonomics due to the fact that their extraordinarily small size means you cant get a full grip on them. I really think you never did anything with the Pico other than Picking one up and then getting of the internet and posting without any knowledge of how to use the firearm. How many times are there accidental discharges from soft triggers? Then I go to the LGS and shoot the guns myself, having sorted down to a handful that might meet my needs. Yes, he and others are social media whizkids, but not firearm experts. And just recently bought my Third Pico. A number of guns you have to shoot 400 rounds or so to exercise the gun so it will never jam as long as it is cleaned and oiled. WebSmith & Wesson Model 500 is a five-shot, single action/double-action large caliber revolver produced by Smith & Wesson, firing the .500 S&W Magnum cartridge, a .50 caliber bullet. (3) Often in the comment sections of user reviews online, you see stuff being dinged a star or two from superfluous stuff. Go to some of the forums and you will seem many post and pictures from fans. Ruger LCP II 3. It shoots all varieties of .380 ammo Ive ever run through it. Snicker. Only drawback is the 2D trigger. The slide has the most ineffective grooves Ive ever felt. yes the Masss might love them, but who the hell are the masses? Oh well the TCP I had isnt top 5-it ran good for me. Thanks for your post. Think he went through that with customer service Ill give ya the mag though. Try the Sig P938 If you are truly carrying for protection you dont mind the Sig Price if your life is on the line and the P938 shoots like a minature 1911 Love mine and have had several friends buy them after shooting my P938 SAS. Definitelythe first Gen 1 models had problemsHowever, the second Gen 2 models are fine. To start with they sat on it for 2 whole years teasing a release and it just kept getting pushed back further and further. Mild. According to our peers, here are the six worst pocketguns, from less awful to worstest. The Pico is top notch. A bunch. Anyone have the Bersa .380. Shocking that an IO Inc product is at the bottom of the barrel. The Kahr chokes on all kinds of ammo. It makes my SR40C feel like a 9mm. IO stopped making them and moved to Florida. So they added in where if you downvote something you must list at least one reason why. The first generation CPX-1s had some problems and gave the company a bad rep starting out, but the company was so adamant that they fixed their second Gen guns that you can send any of the old ones back (they shipped in red boxes) and they will replace them with brand new Gen 2s (which ship in blackish gray boxes). When I hear someone put down the Pico, I know they do not shoot often. Never jammed on me or on my daughter who went to the range with me. Note that I said voted and not have ever even touched the gun at a pawn shop, let alone fired it.. Unless you can document that, I think you are off base posting what is basically a rumor. Also it would be great to know if the people voting own the guns they are rating and/or if they have ever shot them. Apparently their readership likes Sigs with large sample sizes. I have heard the PiCO may be TOO small. Its elegant lines and precision engineering have a timeless appeal. Generally the heavier it is the less recoil. But people usually get .380 to conceal them. If you just care about recoil the Berretta cheeta is a go What a joke. She has had limp wrist cycling problems with other semi-auto pistols in the past. I like its feel in my hand. Com-block mack chambered pistols, walthers, and the like just have better reliability w/ less break in. The take down lever is actually easy to use once get use to it. I shot the cpx-1 and the cpx-2and never had a problem with either. I like the concept at least. No I dont own one I own two. What good is a lifetime warranty if they dont fix it??? This article by Alex Joseph originally appeared at Gun News Daily in 2019. There really is NO WAY to know if the rating is based on a real, objective assessment of the firearm. Thats when I could get them to respond to my emails, that is. OMG! Ive put plenty of rounds through my p3at and its reliable. You got to be a rookie. The problem with the group wisdom line of thinking is that you cannot separate the people with actual hands on experience with the firearm in question from actual users, which is always a problem with new guns. None. This gun looks a whole lot like the Ruger LCP and Kel-Tec P-3AT. Of course the gun was the new upgraded model. My shooting buddy has an LCP. . they do have a 200 round break in that they tell you to expect possible fails also. I went through 4 LCP. But that is just learning curve and a trade off when they removed the problematic safety from the earlier models. Suprised about the Kahr, Beretta, and Diamondback. The Pico is one of the most mild shooting pocket guns you will ever shoot. He says the trigger is horrible? Thats what made my wife choose a Sig P238, which I carry occasionally. Surprised the Remington R51 didnt make this list. Its tight, even well after break-in. Personally, Id like to see something a little more scientific than a survey since we have no idea if the respondents even handled the firearm. Did they succeed? The sccy is very similar. capacity. How is this journalisim? Hey, look You do that and you will find hipoints and cobras to work as they are intended. At 10.2 ounces, the trim Taurus 738 is a very light pistol, and with an overall length of just 5.25 inches its easy to conceal even under light I fire a couple of magazines a month thru them so as not to get too rusty . More than ever, the PPK is a statement of sophistication. We both agreed, the TCP trigger was superior to the LCP. For that reason its got a little too much recoil and im not as accurate with it as i am with my heavier pistols chambered in 9mm and 40 caliber . I think by nature all auto pocket pistols suck. Or do you just sit around Mommies basement pretending to be a gun commando? Though my CW380 was also unreliable and pinched my finger after firing. After each guns name, youll see its average user rating, that ratings margin of error and the number of votes: 1) Diamondback Firearms DB380 (4.3 stars 1.0, 25 votes). Ruger LCR Pistol Ruger LCR Ruger LCR .357 Mag. Its not Remington R51 bad, but its a pretty lousy firearm. No sights (Stick it up their nose and pull the trigger). For College Campuses! Non shooters called me a liar that we could do it, but any bad guy within 30 yards is in great danger, even though it has been a long time. Any failure rates? I will say they like Ruger and a few other vendors copied Kel-Tec once again as this thing look like a P11. It is about 99% reliable, however, which is good enough to carry. (not missed, as in missed the target, but missed as in I pulled the trigger for the follow up shot and nothing happened because it had not reset).
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