WMT (operationally separate from LNWR by this point) brand to be used additionally on XC services to Nottingham and Leicester (stopper only). [4] This was referred to as the InterCity Executive livery as the sets used were dedicated to operating morning/evening services operated for businesspeople. How about that but the double arrow in red? It's only as complicated as you want it to be. In 1956 an all-over darker maroon, which more closely resembled the pre-nationalisation LMS livery, was re-introduced, except for the Southern Region, where locomotive-hauled stock was generally painted 'coaching stock' green (from July 1956-on) and a small number of express carriages on the Western Region which were in traditional GWR-style chocolate and cream. Also, like I said, it's possible that they legally can't call it BR. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. And why call it G-BR if it's nothing like BR? for some form of co-branding. They were numbered in two series, D5500-D5699 and D5800-D5862. Because it's not going to be the same as BR. Bare minimum, low effort. BRs own history says otherwise. How many people list how attractive a train is when you ask them why they decided to go by car or train? JavaScript is disabled. Blue Pullman in grey and blue livery arriving at Bristol Temple Meads in 1973. Roofs were Dark Grey and underframes originally brown, but later black. I'm not convinced "InterCity" services warrant different branding now, as they are no longer of premium quality in terms of service provision; in many case they're just regional or commuter services (thinks XC and GWR in particular). Could GBRTT be right for you? Class 35 'Hymek' D7017 restored to 1960's green & lime livery. Multiple units were also generally green, although this tended to be a lighter and bluer shade compared to the colour used on steam and diesel locomotives. Great Britain (or just Britain) is the mainland of England, Scotland and Wales. the report stated that there would be some update to the double arrow, though not what that update would be. The current lot is an absolute mess. True. it remains to be seen if their just gonna bite the bullet and conform the entirety of rolling stock on the GBR network to a nice Blue and Cream livery. "Great" means "large", not "very good". The rail system is no more a public service than coach companies or supermarkets. [7], Under Network Rail, all stations are formally in public hands since 2014, but only 20 (mainly large termini and central stations) are managed directly by it. For this new venture a new livery - a paler shade of blue than Rail Blue, with three stripes of white, red and grey - was created with Class 47 No.47573 The London Standard painted in the new livery specifically for the launch ceremony. It's not going to be called Rail England and if it was, there'd be nothing "Queen Nicola" could do about it. They retained this livery for some years, before being painted in Rail Blue when that became the norm. GBR is not quite the same, so they no doubt want it to be seen as distinct; plus, it may not even be possible to call it BR, there might be legal implications (just a guess). The iconic London and North Eastern Railway brand - better known as LNER - looks set to be withdrawn again. For me, it's time to sign off from the Great Western Railway Line. [8] The review had been launched in September 2018 and was led by Keith Williams. Antrim Princess Sealink ferry underway in Larne with Sealink letters. The wholly superior vision of the Campaign for Equal Citizenship is long abandoned. It really does look dire. Rail alphabet had the advantage of being clear, legible and was pretty much consistently applied. Great British Railways marks a new era in the history of our railways. There are some good brands out there - gWr for example is a superb piece of marketing prowess, alongside the "friendly nostalgia" of the Famous Five advertising. At the formation of British Railways on 1 January 1948, early diesel and electric locos and the gas turbine locomotives 18000 and 18100 were already painted black with aluminium trim, but by the late 1950s this had been superseded by the same shade of green that was used on express passenger steam locomotives, although some locomotives were painted in a two-tone Brunswick and Sherwood green livery, and Southern Region electric locomotives were painted a light shade of malachite green. [2] It was a dark, greyish blue tone which hid the effects of dirt well. Why not capitalize on it? Find out more Contact us Freedom of Information Jobs at GBRTT Media Sign up for GBRTT News Privacy and GDPR Terms and conditions Thus Class 47 47170 County of Norfolk, allocated to Stratford and a regular performer on trains between Liverpool Street and Norwich, was painted in Large Logo livery. A number of sets of coaching stock and a handful of locomotives received the livery, as well as most new multiple units and some existing ones. The rail system is a public service not an art gallery. Great Britain is not a country; its a landmass. Quick reference Livery Guide for Nameplates and transfers available in 4mm/00 scale. Particularly if they are just vinyls on white painted trains. Differences should merely be factual, not corporate. 3,609. thomalex said: One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. Its not as if they need the advertising, nor do their brands carry the historic and emotional heft that the famous schemes of the genuinely private railways did. Copyright 2023 Great British Railways Transition Team. I never knew I had OCD until that remark lol. But thats the insidious appeal of nationalism: it willalwaysbe easier, in the short term, to spurn complicating national attachments in favour of tacking to local winds and making off with as much cash as you can lay your hands on. I'm unsure about the livery as such, but if Great British Railways is taken forward, I'd expect 'GBR' to feature. Great Britain's railway system was built by private companies, but it was nationalised by the Transport Act 1947 and was run from then onwards by British Railways (which traded as British Rail from 1965) until privatisation, which was begun in 1994 and completed in 1997. It's good work (and the previous set). Here is some variants of my original 'swallow inspired' design. The 4REP and 3/4TC EMUs were a notable oddity, initially receiving all-over Rail Blue despite being express corridor stock. English regions, Scotland, and Wales will have their own variants, but these will still emphasise the national nature of GBR. The government has promised to base the organisation outside London to promote economic growth and skills in a region beyond the capital. . A livery, similar to ScotRail but with the upper dark grey bodyside replaced with a dark blue, was created. Home Forums GBR will own all stations and most infrastructure in Great Britain. Apple Green. Brunswick Green. Northern and TPE split into separate Northwest and Northeast brands. I'm inclined to disagree. JavaScript is disabled. People are understandably sceptical about the frequent rebranding . RM 2A03J14 - Sittingbourne, Kent, UK. The BR Saint & TPO Livery Pack adds additional liveries to the GWR Saint & TPO add-on, enabling you to recreate realistic travelling post office operations in the British Railway era. The Overground operates under its own livery. Finsbury Park. GBR will be made up of five regional divisions, organised in line with Network Rail's Putting Passengers First programme. I am confident I could design a better package in a few hours, and I am not a design professional. "Image of No.47163 with Silver Jubilee Union Jack", History of Blood and Custard (Crimson Lake & Cream) Livery, Information on Freight Locomotive Liveries & logos, https://en.wikipedia.org/w/index.php?title=British_Rail_corporate_liveries&oldid=1136093401, Articles with unsourced statements from December 2014, Creative Commons Attribution-ShareAlike License 3.0. Official Description. The British Isles in my old school geography books included the island of Ireland but I wouldn't have said that in my recent visit to the country! TL:DR - if your a british collector, and you paint your own, PUT THE STRIPPER DOWN. The Tories, particulary this present mob of throwbacks, have long since co-opted the "great" in "Great Britain" to mean "very good"and it's xenophobic, imperialist undertones me me want to vomit. I tried going with the National Rail icon in the right hand side, but it was too small and nobody would notice it. We will probably get something like this Shorthand and in general parlance yes, but Great British Railways will be a brand that the DfT will want to get out there sooner rather than later, even if it is just a vinyl on top of existing TOC names. And the more I see RA2 and its symbols, the more clumsy it looks. A later version made minor changes to the livery, the main one of which was to darken the main shade of blue used. It still has to look good decades from now. And it that light it is intriguing that Ministers have decided to take a step back towards a national rail network with the launch of Great British Railways (GBR). Given the furious backlash over the Protocol, as well as the ill-managed disappointment that was the two parties 2010 link-up (under the awful acronym UCUNF), one can understand why Northern Irish politicians shy away from the Tories. JavaScript is disabled. The attachments illustrate this. Likes Received: 1,930. 1948 -. [7], The reorganisation does not affect Northern Ireland, where the railway is already operated by the vertically integrated and already wholly state-owned Northern Ireland Railways. It does because it's public perception. The first Class 31 entered service in November . Theres no vote in Northern Ireland for him or his Conservative party so he doesnt care, hes hands off.. At present, train operators get to decorate their rolling stock in their own colours. I think there would be huge advantages of a standard livery and branding across the Britain, in saving money and presenting a unified product to the customer. Why? One of the big ones is an end to endless rebranding of trains when the operator changes with various bit of old livery hanging about for a long time, never mind the cost and waste involved. The Union Jack will represent. Nothing to bring it all together. If only we were to see a coherent joined up livery scheme to run nationwide like the picture above , however I rather suspect this will not be the case. The rebranding of British Railways to British Rail on 1 January 1965 was coupled with the introduction of an entirely new national livery. Within a period of 10 years, HSTs had three different liveries. The colour often appears inaccurately in photographs, generally appearing brighter and bluer than the real colour. By 2020s Britain, I mean a design that is reflective of modern day marketing and branding. The Class 309 units worked between Liverpool Street and Clacton, occasionally also to Ipswich and Norwich and later upon transfer saw the livery briefly appear around Manchester and Birmingham. They were repainted into blue/grey in the early 1970s. Wrap yourself up in the flag and sing rule Brittania. Eventually, it was decided to standardise on a colour which became known as Rail Blue. If it was, that format would not be used by: If you need any proof, they've also just done the same with 'Great British Nuclear'. For Station signage that is supposed to be functional and informative above all else, I don't see too much wrong with this. The infrastructure was privately owned and operated by Railtrack from 1994 to 2002, when it was renationalised and transferred to Network Rail. [18] GBR will own all infrastructure in Scotland and Wales that Network Rail owns now. | Page 23 | RailUK Forums We're pleased to announce the launch of our new booking engine at tickets.railforums.co.uk, which helps support the running of the forum with every ticket purchased. Upon sectorisation, most secondary passenger routes which did not fall under the InterCity or Network SouthEast banner were re-designated as Regional Railways (originally Provincial). We use cookies. The UK, Britain, Great Britain, The British Isles, England - what's the difference? Different NSE style local/commuter networks round the country. Make the name central and it'd be perfect. The Southern Region types worked mostly on the Charing Cross / Cannon Street - Hastings via Battle / Dover and Ramsgate routes and on the Victoria / London Bridge - Brighton / Littlehampton / Hastings via Eastbourne routes. Something timeless. European paint code RAL5020 ("Ocean Blue") is a good match to Rail Blue. You are using an out of date browser. Aren't best impressions the ones that did the 2015 Virgin East Coast HST? Railfreight livery, a colour scheme specifically for freight locomotives, was unveiled when Class 58 58001 drove through a plastic screen at Doncaster Works on 9 December 1982. And other European countries cope with DB trains in France, SNCF trains in Germany etc. The Double Arrow is used for stations on maps, so that's really a no-brainer frankly. But such an approach offers a bleak long-term outlook for the UK. From 1974, some DMU sets, after being refurbished, were painted white with a wide blue band under the windows and full yellow ends. If they are going down the GBR route, which is just nationalisation with extra steps, it needs to look the part (the national part, not the extra steps part). The signs look good, if a bit bland and functional. Scottish rolling stock not covered by the ScotRail livery (generally those on secondary services) received the Regional Railways livery, but with "ScotRail" branding. Livery Guide Great Western Railways/British Railway Western Region. Bare minimum. British Railways was formed in 1948, it was divided into geographical regions loosely based on the pre-war Big Four company areas, Scotland became a region on its own and the former LNER area was divided into North Eastern and Eastern Regions. [17] This livery is also often nicknamed 'toothpaste livery' by rail enthusiasts due to the multicoloured stripes resembling striped toothpaste. I quite like that version; I think I might like it even more if the black and the red were blue instead though. This mock-up was shown in an orange and grey livery, which, however, never appeared on rolling stock in service. With the reorganisation of British Railways in the mid-1960s, a complete break with the past was signalled by the introduction of a blue and grey livery which dominated all passenger rolling stock until the mid-1980s, when a new Intercity livery (dark grey and beige with a red and white waistband) was introduced along with a number of regional colour schemes. Class 01 01002 inside Holyhead Breakwater shed in early black livery. Famous in York and up and down the East Coast Main Line, LNER could soon be consigned to history - again, YorkMix understands. Until the introduction of Mk1 catering vehicles in the late '50s, these trains had matching former GWR catering vehicles. You are using an out of date browser. Other examples are available Once they'd ditched single colour liveries, they didn't really do anything that wasn't ", One can only hope for a Sectorised return to NSE. In which case, why do car manufacturers put effort (and substantial amounts of money!) For example, GBR will apparently inherit from Network Rail the duty to run and plan the network, as well as providing online tickets, information and compensation for passengers nationwide. This opens up the possibility of a national ticketing app, with the Great British Railways branding. I wonder if we might actually see things like "Northern - by Great British Railways" rather than one single overarching branding. But do you think Queen Nicola would accept trains branded as "Rail England" coming across the border? The BR that believed in having multiple liveries and brands? 19th September, 2019. The easiest way to guarantee readibility at night would be to use retroreflective coatings, like those used on road signs. We need a sense of professionalism and togetherness, one branding brings that. It highlighted different ways in which Westminster could invest in Britains strategic transport network to better-integrate the nation. 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