You just have to do a little pruning to make sure they share sunlight and space. In my garden, I have only one Reed. Home Depot in Whittier has mainly had Zutanos, Bacons and Hass while Lowes hadnt had anything. Thank you for sharing your knowledge freely and generously. I see a lot of posts about cold tolerant avocado trees, how about heat tolerant (besides reed)? Or maybe scratch all those and go with GEM or Gwen? Ive been binge-reading your site after finding it yesterday. I tried it 2 days in row. I like the taste of all of them, so would ideally want to pick one for cross-pollination and longest season of Avocados from both! One thought would be to graft an A and a B to the same tree with similar seasons for cross pollination. Best regards, See my post on Where to buy an avocado tree, and contact Subtropica Nurseries to inquire there. In fact I find that Pinkerton here is actually better than down South and in fact better than Hass. You might try to ask someone nearby about the water they use, especially on a young tree (older trees are tougher). Old mexicana only a few a year, sometimes none. Asking them to prune 3X a year I think is questionable. But the intention is to have overlapping seasons for both A and B type so there is always cross pollination available (I know that doesnt guarantee it will work, but I like the idea of having that potential). Im from Southern Portugal and had also trouble to find reliable sources for avo trees. We should be able to figure out how to make one work. Thanks for the good ideas. Unfortunately, people here seldom grow avocados, it is just not in our culture which is strange, because people do eat avocados a lot, and you find them in every supermarket. Pollinators for the Avocado - Sharwill (B) Cross pollinate with one of these varieties for fruit set Avocado - Hass (A) $ 54.00 ($54.00-$79.00 choose a size) Most popular variety due to both its superior taste and excellent keeping qualities. Sharwils harvest season compared to Reed will likely be more similar to Hass at your location. Thank you! It stops a month earlier than a Reed but the Fuerte starts up the next month. This is one of the "classic" avocados. Do you suggest shade clothes for all my trees (about 4 feet tall, 15 gal), or will it stunt growth too much? In fact, cross-pollination is promoted in the flowers by the stigma of a flower being receptive to pollen prior to pollen being released from that same flower. Hey Greg, What I would plant after these is less solid though. This is important information indeed. My question is how do you recommend getting rid of the persea mite? Vertically? I decided to go pairwise; Im curious and want to understand whatre the best varieties to eat & grow here in our climate and my particular soil and I hope to avoid alternate bearing issues. Nowels Avocado. My 15-foot Hass averages roughly 100 avocados per year, and Ive found that we need more than that during the Hass season. 2) have high-quality fruits, tasty, with a high oil-content. It weighs between 8 and 16 oz, making it a slightly smaller variety. SUPPORTERS (we thank you! Hass x 4 Reed x 3 Sharwil x 1 Unknown grafted x 1 Fuerte x 2 Ettinger x 2 Wurtz x 1 And a few seedlings. The fruit is the 'Hass' type, with a pebbly green skin that ripens off the tree to nearly black. It is very helpful! Sadly, there are fewer and fewer every year. Im guessing youre referring to Van Nuys as being slightly cooler in winter (compared to spots closer to the beach). But its good to remember that any trees shape can be affected somewhat by whats growing around it and where its getting sun. I am familiar with Fuertes history and that it grows wide making dense planting difficult and that some years the production is very low. 1) which two varieties would you recommend as being good pairing for quite heavy clay-y soil?! Truth is, youll probably be happy with either a Reed or a Sharwil in every way. I am curious to see if it will fruit consistently. Your email address will not be published. When I walk around my neighborhood here in Sylmar, Its amazing how most people abuse their avocado trees by having their gardeners rake up those leaves as soon as they hit the ground. The skin is green when ripe, is bumpy and of medium thickness, and peels easily. This way youll likely have some years with fruit on all but some years where the tender ones get some damage. We can all hope, cant we? The flesh itself has a mild taste and is quite watery. I really appreciate reading your expert advice and opinion about your experiences. Following your advice, I have planted 5 Hass trees, 1 Fuerte, 1 Reed, and 1 Sir prize. I could do that! One is related to a nursery based in California called Brokaw: https://www.viverosbrokaw.com/?lang=en. The rest of it rocky, not very rich, not clayey (I guess this should mean it is well ventilated. Its super helpful for us newbies . The Sir Prize avocado is defined primarily by a distinctive ridge along one side which becomes less noticeable when the fruit ripens. Should I go which two Dusas (Hass+Dusa, Reed+Dusa)? Years ago when I started planting it was hard to find out what to grow up here. A homegrown Hass, picked at prime time around May or June in southern Southern California, but some months later up near Point Conception and ripened at room temperature on a kitchen counter (not refrigerated and gassed with ethylene during its mishandling on the way to a retail outlet) is a knockout. I have been growing avos for 40 years. The fifteen-gallon avocado trees Ive planted have all continued to be far bigger and productive earlier than five-gallon trees planted at the same time. Hi Greg, Then I would eliminate the Holiday on the basis of its lower production in comparison to Pinkerton and GEM. Forgive my rambling. Sharwil avocados from . Ill be visiting a mature high-density planting in a couple weeks and Ill pass along anything new that I observe, but the main long-term challenge for most growers with this style is keeping on top of the pruning. Do you think I should remove the one tree which has a few new green shoots? Mateo. The Sharwil is a Guatemalan avocado of Australian origin, very similar to the Fuerte (although the Sharwil avocado is more ovular). http://www.riversun.co.nz/assets/Uploads/Avocado-Rootstock-Characteristics.pdf The answer depends on a few things. Please find attached the pictures of the avocado tree in Nice (the variety is unknown, picture taken on the 1st of November). What would you recommend? We have a central coast house with three citrus trees and was looking for one Avocado tree, I was leaning towards the Sir Prize, with your discussion should I lean towards the Haas as a single tree, or is either a good choice. Thank you, Elizabeth. Trees will be on south facing slope w full sun. I have seen, in person, happy Hass and/or Reed trees in other parts of Southern California considered Sunset Zone 18, such as Rancho Cucamonga, Corona, and Redlands. As your commenter mentioned above, this list might not be optimal for those of us in slightly cooler areas. Medium spreading canopy. Hello- Love your site- what a treasure trove! Trees are medium growing and yield nearly year round. Ive never heard of anyone who is unsatisfied by Gwens eating qualities, and there arent many avocado varieties that achieve such distinction. Then I would give the slight nod to GEM due to the likelihood that the tree in general will look prettier. However, I did a lot of research, and read dozens of artciles in English, mostly about growing avocados in the US and all the different varieties (when it come to planting something new, I pay a lot of attention to the variety choice) Hi Greg, Im also wondering if I might be happier going with a pair of smaller trees that let me enjoy avocados closer to year-round. I am from Nice (France, Europe), and I would like to plant two avocado trees in my garden. I live in the Hilltop area of Chula Vista, the temps rarely get above 85 or below 40.We had a Gwen avocado tree that was very productive for many years. Hass has the wonderful ability to mature its fruit and then hold them on the tree for many months, waiting for you to pick them. The good news is that I know trees there that have had them for years, have never been treated for them, and the trees still produce well. Edranol, Ettinger, Hass, Sharwil and Zutano were mid-season flowerers. I would recommend buying a new and healthy tree within the next month and planting it straight away no keeping it for months on your deck first. Incidentally, similar spacings can often be used in a yard as on a farm. The difference is that the A type trees have flowers that will open as females in the morning one day, close in the afternoon, then open the next afternoon as male and then close in the evening. Maybe I should dig a 5th hole. I was given permission and I will get you some budwood hopefully within a year. Great to hear! I am really lost on here. Sharwil Avocados from Hawaii. Can you please tell me which avocado orchard you visited in California? I know Sunland, and I can empathize with how you and your avocados feel. Id like to plant an avacado tree in my front court yard. Fertilize every few months with a well-balanced citrus and avocado plant food. These trees survived the heat wave, they are healthy and beautiful. I dont know the nursery it is originally from. Pollenizers havent been shown to make much of a difference close to the ocean like you. But Ill definitely write profiles of them when I feel like I know them well enough. I enjoy hearing your feedback on Holiday. Hard to say. But just a few years later, in 1992, fruit flies ruined everything. Your thoughts? Its nearly impossible, unfortunately. Hi Greg, Also I was thinking of grafting Lamb Hass onto the Hass so I can extend that season. The challenge Ive heard others in your area having is with occasional cold snaps in winter (taken care of by your greenhouse) and such cool spring weather that B types dont set much fruit. In my (very limited) gardening experience, I noticed that choosing the right variety is not everything, one has to be sure it will function well in the conditions ones got. This variety is productive in both coastal and inland areas. The wood is soft, the leaves are soft. We have tried to plant Hass avocados about four times and despite every best effort with location change in the yard and switching up irrigation they all eventually turned black on the trunk, browned leaf tips, and given up, to our dismay. What could have caused this issue ? Should we take all the trees out and start new? A handsome tree to about 9m x 10m, Hass is fairly cold and frost tolerant once established, and will bear its delicious fruit between September and January. Thank you so much for the great articles, and for your personal attention and replies. In Point Loma/Sunset Cliffs, just make sure the trees arent stressed from lack of water and you should prevent whatever fruitlet drop is possible to prevent. In that case, the tree needs to be kept cool and hydrated as far as possible. While having less fat may seem appealing, the fats contained in Hass avocados are really rather healthful. So I have got as close as I can while understanding that the season is going to be affected by many other things anyway. I wanted to say I appreciate all you do with your website and videos. With this global warming trend I think it might be time for U.C. Will the new leaves burn? Also my grandfather said growing up in Los Angeles they had Mcarthur avocados, Have you ever heard of them? Ive seen numerous examples of this throughout Southern California. Might turn out to be yours though! It seems that Reed has the advantage in terms of fruit production. I am still waiting for an answer about my order, which, I hope, will be possible. I wanted to plant them next to each other. Oliver Atkins, the founder of the nursery, was the longtime chair of the Variety Committee of the California Avocado Society. We do not have a lot of wind problems where we are located, either. I figured there had to be one. Wish Maddocks was open on the weekend so i could check it out. Ive never had a tree-matured Reed. You ought to add either Lamb or Reed for avocados to be eaten in summer into fall, yes; your grafting idea there is a good one. I saw a fruiting avocado tree for the first time in my life. And thats what a five- compared to fifteen-gallon tree is: younger. Thanks for the response. Or consider 'Lamb Hass,' a similar-size tree, hardy to 26 degrees, bearing 10- to 18-ounce Hass . Small seed - Sharwil seeds, possibly the smallest of all commercial avocados, are The Nabal trees I know are not so wide spreading like a Fuerte, and neither are they more upright like a Bacon can be. If I couldnt find a Reed, Id substitute with a Lamb. (See more on this from a paper by Peter A. Shepard avocados will not bend or break. Both can be considered "creamy," but Hass has higher levels of fat which makes. Should be interesting to see how it works out. impossible (or almost impossible) to ship American varieties from the US to Europe. Other A-type avocados that are naturally on the relatively small side and produce well and are good eating include: Pinkerton, Lamb, Reed, and Gwen. Our greenhouse has 14ft ceilings. USDA Certified Production Facility: Volume up to 6,000 lbs. (See more about Lamb in my post, The Lamb/Hass avocado tree: a profile.). Great to hear all of this. Mexicola is the oiliest variety that I have tasted but its a bit too intense for me, and I wouldnt say its one of my favorites. They grow great but just dont produce as much fruit. One concern I have about fresh trimmings is the build up of spores and what not from it just being piled up (6 inches or so thick). I feel like all of them doesnt have a good overlap in terms of flowering season, what can i do to make sure they get polinated enough? Historic photo of Mr. and Mrs. Rudolph Hass in front of an avocado tree Thank you!! ), and are interested in dwarf avocados outside that have a chance of bearing here. Greg suggested me the Viveros Brokaw. In my yard, Reeds start to taste good as early as May, and can go through September. I live in San Diego, about 7 miles away from the coast. All these years I couldnt figure what it was. fireduck. Once budwood is available without using the mother tree I will share more on the Lamorinda. About high-density avocado plantings: I visited a grove that has been doing it for decades and theyve found that the spacing that works in the long run depends on the variety. Youve already got some great varieties growing there. . On the other hand, I doubt youd be disappointed with Pinkerton, which is widely available. Still, taste is subjective and theres no accuracy in saying any one variety is the best tasting to anyone but yourself. So I decided to plant a Hass and a Sir Prize which sounded like a great variety. I am thinking Dusa for Hass (everyone says that Hass avocado grafted on Dusa is more productive than on Duke 7) But I have no idea about Reed, because no scientific study mentions Reed (I guess this is because it is not a commercial variety anymore). dont know how to grow in your region, Thanks so much in advance Im about to head to subtropica nursery to buy three trees. More than half the fat in avocados is the healthy monounsaturated fat (the type in olive oil) and saturated fat is minimal. I have many thoughts on this topic, but dont have the experience so I am curious to get your thoughts on this! In terms of comparing it to the taste of other avocados, thats tricky for me. For example, Ive got some avocado trees planted at 7.5 feet apart, and thats a spacing that some commercial growers use. So from Armstrong and Evergreen and Walter Andersen, etc. It has excellent flavor with two distinct crops a year. Type B is a plus, but also read that it is not as great of a producer. I am looking for a variety that would : When it comes to Avocado, Temecula is the place to buy all your Avocado trees, famous for best Avocados in the WORLD. And if I couldnt find a Fuerte, Id substitute a Pinkerton. . The main negative is that, to me, Pinkertons dont taste quite as good as Fuertes. I write a new "Yard Post" every Friday. I wish I had time to make more videos. This way, if one performs significantly better than the other, then you could replace the poor performer with a tree on the rootstock that you know does well in your soil. My Reed and Lamb trees held onto so much fruit that I later had to remove some by hand in order to prevent branches from breaking. I actually removed my small Fuerte to grow thie Lamorinda because my backyard is tiny and with 5 other avos in the ground I already have more than enough on my plate. If you want the tree to grow more vertically, Id plant a Reed. We dont need a shade tree (probably that was obvious. You are going to be in avocado heaven soon. Hawaii Sharwil avocado. The only real negative was that the seedcoat didnt adhere to the seed. Hass avocados make up 95% of all the avocados eaten in the USA but you may be surprised to learn that the humble Hass is one of the newest varieties of avocado and didn't even exist before the 1920's. Ive seen about every variety I know kept to about that height in one yard or farm or another. But for others like Hass and Reed and Sharwil, to take the ones you mentioned, they just taste like awesome avocados. But mine trees are still small 3 and 4 feet and last year only had 5 egg size fruit. Yes, Atkins is a great source of uncommon avocado varieties. You might find this answer boring, in which case Id be willing to bet that you dont already have a Hass tree in your yard. But, most of those carbs come from fiber. They should do well for you. Im in Ramona, which calls itself the Valley of the Sun, and its not too different here. Screw the big/medium locals, I am going to Fallbrook from now own to get my avo trees straight from the growers. Thanks, Keith. Its just hard to start growing a tree that you: And I started reading about rootstocks. Thanks for everything. But keep this in mind: each of these three varieties is capable of producing a hundred avocados on a tree thats less than 15-feet tall even if its not close to an opposite-type tree. There are so many in the Santa Barbara area. The main difference is that GEM is a smaller tree, if that matters to you. And when I hear one in my neighborhood, I find the tree trimmers and ask if theyd be willing to dump their chips by my driveway. GEM is more consistent, so growers can make money every year," Arpaia said. The funny thing is that when I have given people some wood I didnt give them fruit because it is identical to Fuerte so there is no need. Ive found that 30% shade cloth over the top of young trees is enough unless its over about 105 degrees. See his website for details: https://www.elisfarms.com/farmers-markets. And if its a tiny tree youre after, then it doesnt get much smaller than Holiday (XX3). Ill do it again this summer to figure out where not to plant less heat tolerant plants. But I have no idea if tomato Phytophthora is related to Phytophthora that affects avocado trees. ))) No matter your choice, Im excited for you to get a tree or a couple going in your yard. I know you know the pruning game so Im sure youll have no problem keeping the trees at 12 feet. Good problems. The same occurred with my newly planted atemoya: the leaves turned black, and the tree dried to death. If you only eat half, that's 1.3 grams of net carbs. Also no information whether it is a clonal rootstock or a seedling one (for avocado trees). Even in warm-winter locations it doesnt always bear as well as some A types. While Dusa is the global standard today, it does not perform best in all conditions with all scion varieties. Thanks Thank you so much for your answer. those seedlings are just what i was able to get locally that have excellent flavor from what i research online. I guess the mites are too small to interest Ladybugs. The tree is around 12 ft. Hi Joseph, Now, less fat might sound good, but the fats found in Hass avocados are very healthy. Yet the tree is smaller in that it is an upright instead of a large spreading type, the fruit are small but turn black when ripe (about the size of tiny hass found 8 in a bag), and the tree is a heavy producer (at least it was this time). Tamp the soil down around the tree's . This question is unanswerable in an objective sense. I understand that Wurtz, Holiday, Pinkerton and Gem are my options. The only tough part is that you must whitewash exposed bark. There is a lot of great info here. This way youre likely to rarely get bad damage. Avocado oils are high in monounsaturated fats, which are beneficial for your heart and skin. 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