Joan thanks for helping this dobe As far as food for upset stomachs, usually vets recommend something like plain rice and chicken. I bet half of you owners with “healthy” white Dobies haven’t seen been to a vet more than three times with that dog. Steve H. Your Cleo sounds like our Athana – who was an exceptional dog. The coat color still looks brown, but much less of the reddish undertone seen in the true reds. It’s like saying you dont like people of colour. We just adopted a Red Doberman coming up on her 5th birthday. LOL We have plenty of Dogs and it’s always time for someone’s check up or booster shots. But as long as you love your own Doberman that’s what counts. This is proved by a book written back in 1929 and one in 1939 by two different authorities on the breed. There is no such thing as a white doberman. I am an animal activist, but I still think it’s okay to cut their ears as long as it is done correctly and under anesthesia with great care taken to keep the dog out of pain and tending to the healing correctly. If a red dog has one partial albinism gene, it becomes isabella/fawn. I would love to help you we had our Coco a red Dobe from 8 wks till 13 yrs when she had a heart attack. I’ve seen others similarly sized. He lived to be 16 years old. Especially when they may need more medical care. So, which is your favorite color for the Doberman Pinscher? When Becky started to talk her first word was Clee her word for Cleo as Becky got to four years old we gave in and let her hold Cleo’s lead as she had been asking from about two years of age ? standing up for the standard is what keeps our dobes as wonderful as they are… furthering a trait that isn’t considered “correct” (yeah … if you love them its correct) then you might as well cross that awesome dobe with that great confirmation intelligence and temperament with a mutt. There is alot of controversy on this subject. Darwin’s theories of natural selection might suggest that a white tiger would not be able to breed in nature due to it’s ‘different-ness’, however, nature and reality clearly evidence that this genetic variant continues to procreate on our planet. The other from Lyme Disease. But like I mentioned they’re super rare. Follow up will be in 2020, but until then no meds nor restrictions are prescribed. My male was solid blue for the 1st year of his life n now at the age of 2 he has a very subtle marking where the rust would normally b. It seems the Doberman breed has a very strong heart. Saint is very intelligent, has a great thick coat, and has absolutely no hearing problems. Katie at that point was 5 years old. Should I be concerned? I will do all that I can to keep her healthy and enjoy her life, but I encourage anyone who wants to get a Doberman to do the research not on just the breed but also the breeders. Sure, some may be loving, intelligent, and even have no health problems; however, the majority of them do. I would love a solid red female. I am sad to know that it is highly likely she will not live as long as some of your dobies. Blue – A bluer Doberman has its black pigment diluted. Some people are totally a-holeish about it. They have long hair coats and they are referenced in the books as well. if those of you who preach about the health, etc of the whites, why dont yuo get updated material, scientific material, and quit making yourself look so foolish. I should of googled white dobes b4 i even thought about it but i didn’t and now to see what i have read about them i don’t know how these breader get away will mating them It sickens me to think that this is so not fair to the bread..and how clueless sarah at the top of this page really is ugh.. go to the AKC home page and read what color eyes albinos have and all the probs they have they can have up to 3 different colors in eye color…. I made a broadcast post that we have adopted a 7 month old. (I canNOT be out of her sight!) See more ideas about doberman, doberman pinscher, blue doberman. You can easily make this yourself or call a few vets for other suggestions. I have a dog, so I should breed? Also…. What a bunch of self- flattering snobbery, 1). In fact, we were there yesterday as I purchased another Doberman. I actually own a beautiful white doberman named Kapone and he is my baby. Exposure to children is essential to even an adult dog. Want to make sure we do right by her, and I’m realizing we know a lot less than I thought we did. A Blue Doberman isn’t really blue, it’s more of a gray color that can appear to be blue, silver, or even purple, the unique coloring coming from a recessive color diluted gene that both parents must have in order to produce a “blue.” Put another way, when the recessive dilute gene is present, “black” Dobermans can produce blue puppies. It is safer to put animals down in a shelter than to risk it 1. We rescued him when he was 2 years old and it’s a good thing we didn’t take to heart all the negative comments people write about them. What would actually be beneficial is if all of the passionate people that felt the need to express their explosive opinions on this article actually got together and tried to make an argument collectively to have the dobermans removed from the aggressive dog lists that affect housing. All four allowed colors of the Doberman are eligible to compete for Championship points in AKC Conformation. remember please dont be a moron and breed these dogs ever ! Against all wisdom we have a puppy at hand. If your were truly responsible with your pets this would not even be necessary. Over crowding in shelters is a human made problem that will not end in YOUR life time, so your whining is pathetic and futile. Siamese cats are a classic example of a harmless albino mutation; they are genetically albino, but the mutation only affects the hair, and it is temperature-dependent. Read all you can about dog behaviour to understand things from their point of view. They also may be more aggressive and therefore, give the breed a bad reputation. I also became very bored reading your snarky reply. I like any dog without its ears cut off. It is just that Padula was the first one anyone tried to register. Just remember to ALWAYS monitor children with dogs. Okay, I own a beautiful Dob. Look, I’ve owned rescue dogs and purebreds. All domesticated animals – including all dog breeds are a bit of an abomination or reconstruction of ‘natural selection’ and I feel that we need to be wary of pontificating or judging the significant efforts of those who believe in breeding white Dobermans. But most of them will. In my opinion, not a good idea. And health concerns of white Dobermans. It’s just the colour of the dog……HEllo it’s still a DOBERMAN! In my opinion, fawn and rust Dobermans look a bit funny (but they’re still very cute!). We nursed her for 2 months and then gave in to euthanize her. They’re sometimes referred to as gray Doberman. NEVER EVER DID I SEE THAT IN ANY OF THE WHITE DOGS I CAME ACROSS! The first recorded albino female, Shebah is not the only white doberman of record. And why would you say AKC and purebred dogs are sick anyway? I am honored to read your story. White. … douchbag. In my opinion if yo decide to breed the it should be a “z” to a “non-z” this is just me and i know that somebody will chew me out behind it but “we” all humans come from 2 people. With time, love and patience he will become the dog god intended him to be. After evaluating Katie, her owners and the circumstances of the biting, we did not hesitate adopting her. Ya’ll need to learn how to take care of dogs and shut up. I remain devastated to this day. Do your research and stop trying to bad mouth the white dobies. Blue eyes is actually a lack of pigment in the iris. It is a fault, there are only four allowed colors. I am a veterinary nurse and kennel club registered Doberman breeder in the UK. They are very protective and loyal. A beautiful White female Doberman placed in the last DPCA Nationals. I do believe that they do have a soft stomach . He has all the red & tan Dobie markings and body style but the hair texture, ears and tail of a GS. These Dobermans actually do have health probs there white coat shouldn’t be exposed to sun I had a white dobee before. I would definitely get a black/rust female! I am fair skin and burn easy. However, when we look at the longevity of, say, albino rabbits, guinea pigs, pigeons and budgies, we can realistically say that being white in itself is not fatal to a species. Oversize in both the US and in Europe. WHY are people so concerned with LOOKS and COLOR, there are already many different colors of dobies and if you breed white ones or want white ones — YOU ARE A DISGRACE. We are so relieved. Color Associated Points of Interest. PS Spell checked by my mutt and pure bred who ran it by the goldfish. The subtle blue makes them a unique Dobe while maintaining AKC recognition. or a sheppherd dog or a wiener? The germs cannot ever develop an immunity as they can with antibiotics because of the way it works. The issue with white Dobermans is that all white Dobermans are severely inbred. My name is nick. Back in the beginning, Ayla was tested for pigment. both allels are white – you get a white puppy (25% chance). Little did I know at the time the classification of “WZ” would come to haunt my wallet and health of our new pup. When I get my male Dobe, I personally will go for black/red to avoid any potential problems of the other 2 colors. But do not carry the Z mark on their paperwork. No comparison to white Dobermans, which are albinos. Just one opinion. They were studying the Cream/white Doberman. Would like to tell you my story. Technical, this type of coat color happens due to a dilutive gene that causes the black to look diluted down. All 3 of us. My uncle had a albino doberman for 15 years and was the best dog ever. If there are genetic problems in a particular line – say, deafness or blindness – then that could easily be mitigated by careful selective breeding. White Dobermans are predisposed to many health issues. The blue Doberman is a dilution of the black color. I have a male and female black and tan dobermans the female i got frim indiana the male i got from tennessee i just bred them last year and one pup came out white so please explain to me how my white doberman is the product of inbreeding some of you need to realize thats not the only way their made. I totally agree with Dober mom. It’s one thing to unintentionally get one in a litter, but another to specifically breed for them. For centuries man has made MANY, MANY dog breeds, and so what if they were interbred? You are the product of mating genetics just as much as a white or silver Doberman or two humans of any color (some better adapted than others awhile, but then things change) because a male had an erection and a female accommodated it by choice or force. Some have went on to shows. Jessica Where is the Tennessee rescue.. I’m not on Facebook but would like to get in touch with them. Love my buddy to death so thanks for any info. This is our background. She has a perfect Doberman physique and is unbelievably sweet and kind. ANOTHER THING! It isn’t expensive (~ $25 for puppy, young and adult and ~ $50 for seniors per month ). I love my dobes the way they are… I stick to breed standard, so as not to change the breed, and possibly further the health problems so many have…. Best dog I ever had. For small dogs with internal infections I would use about 1/4 oz twice a day for 10 days, and up to 1/2 oz twice a day for 10 days. I have a all black doby! These last two Doberman colors, the greys, and fawns are sometimes discouraged from breeding. Covered by a short, smooth coat of two colors, a Doberman breed evinces a royal aura, adorned with a graceful gait to match with. In fact, they come in at least 9 beautiful colors! In the past I had 2 German Shepperd, but after my first blue doberman all my family totally fall in love in this breed and couldn’t imagine our home without doberman. No tail cutting should be done after and only by vet. Mom kept telling her she didn’t like her. I realy think breeding 2 whites is where the problem comes in. We are in touch with rescues, petfinder and have advertised. Before I bought our current Red Male, the breeder asked what I was looking for, I said I was a little partial to a Red Male never having owned a Red before. For those just learning about Profiling, more how a breeder can determine before mating the future potential of a match. But, but, but, hesitate to put this into words, like words would make it „more real“. I just wish that humans would stop trying to breed dogs for what they think they should be and spoil the breeds! Since one white and one black allel means a black (and tan/rust) dog, and the white allel is rare, people can have white-carrier dogs without ever find out. He has no signs of cancer. NO DOG should be put outside like lawn furniture, but a Dobeman willl make your life hell if you think you can do that. The younger the age at neutering, the earlier the age at diagnosis with mast cell cancer, cancers other than mast cell, hemangiosarcoma, lymphoma, all cancers combined, a behavioral disorder, or fear of storms. I feel he needs a chance at a much better life!!! Contrary to popular belief, Dobermans come in more than their signature tan and black. Although she is such a beauty and she has no health problems I will not be breeding her. just curious. I got my last two from Doberman Rescue League which is in south florida and my first from Doberman Rescue of the Triad which is in North Carolina. And I say albino because it is not a colour it is the complete opposite a lack of colour I would never entertain a breeder of the albino Doberman and those breeders who describe the dog as rare and desirable are idiots that have no interest in healthy dogs just lining their pockets it makes me feel sick. To avoid serious shock for your pocket – take the pet insurance. And she has bright pink skin that burns easily. For example, if the white gene in a tiger provided resistance to any given cat disease, then breeding white tigers could potentially endow the species with a ‘get-out-of-jail-free’ card in the future. Some owners of normal Dobermans want to breed from him as he looks very good. Some years ago, I met a doberman who was glossy black with bright yellow where you would normally see the rust color. Adding to the confusion, the color names also vary around the world, some Europeans call red Dobermans, brown. Currently have a red dobie who is the wildest, most hard to train girl ever! I have a male isabella named Apollo and a femal black and tan named annie we are expecting puppies any day now!! She’s beautiful, smart, and a very interesting colour. Brace yerselves for it… ALMOST ALL PUREBRED DOGS ARE THE PRODUCT OF INBREEDING! Do you know they can get cancer if you don’t get them fixed? I can honestly say even thou pitbulls have a bad rep I have no problems with the pitbulls now the dobies I have a major problems with…her dobie attacks my cat and had my kid by the throat I know not all dobies are this way and I still love all dogs but if she was to have a white dobie that was inbreed somehow it highers the risk for innocent people to get hurt… I agree with people who say its not the dogs fault its the owner cause it is but I do not agree with the whole thing that if God made it it should be here God did not tell someone to make inbreed dobies. An animal can have albino skin & hair, but still have normal eye color; this is called partial albinism. The dog should respect who the alpha leader/you decide is allowed into your house or “pack”. She said it worked well. My first Black and Tan female won my mother over after the first day. I want all the colors i may breed i may not breed, but as with any thing line breeding can cause problems. It was the ‘antibiotic’ of choice in a few countries for 2000 years b4 penicillin and then it was all but forgotten about. If you were to breed I would totally want a solid red pup! All 4 are acceptable colors for the breed. WZ i found out after the fact from AKC is a designation of Doberman’s with the albino trait even though he is a blue Doberman, he is a carrier and hence why he was given that designation. last but not least Doberman’s have one flaw THEY DON’T LIVE FOREVER. You sound like you have a deep love for the breed. I need help my family and I just purchased a black and rust Doberman from pure breeders.com (I know everyone will have their opinions on the site) and it was just brought to my attention through my asking that the Doberman we are getting z factored. Humans as a species have not been around, in any influential way for very long. If you have a white and healthy doberman consider yourself lucky. It cuts their guts apart when the hydrate! As far as I’m concerned they are the best all around breed you can get. Haha, just like it’s wrong to have RRB without the ridge, even though those one’s tend to be healthier, so pure whites or blacks shouldn’t be bred, but either just sold off or put down like the do with the RRB’s without the ridge? Spontaneous albino mutations can potentially occur in any mammal (i.e. A pad with MESOSILVER taped to his foot and leg cured it in three days! All my dogs have been indoor dogs so by dark mom was holding the door open for her to go in. They are very pretty, but I think now Im having a few doubts.) It’s a domesticated animal (we) as responsible adults are to look out for their well being, And yes I encourage this because you’re saving the animal giving it a healthier life. She already had beautiful manners, we just added a calm environment and patience to her life, which made her the perfect companion for us. 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